(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[10800]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[BGA Championship title game 1]PW[Daniel Hu]PB[Andrew Simons]WR[4d]BR[4d]DT[2017-08-19]EV[BGA Championship title game 1]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[BGATeach [-\]: Good Morning All
BGATeach [-\]: This is a clone of the British Championship Game
BGATeach [-\]: First game of this years Championship.
BGATeach [-\]: Daniel Hu is White
BGATeach [-\]: Andrew simons is Black
BGATeach [-\]: Time limits are 3 Hours each plus overtime (10 in 10 I think)
BGATeach [-\]: I am Matthew Macfadyen
BGATeach [-\]: The players have 1 win each from the Championship preliminary rounds, so no very clear favourite
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;W[dp]C[BGATeach [-\]: Here we go
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;B[pc]
;W[pp]C[BGATeach [-\]: AS is a keen student of openng theory. We can expect some recent research to appear
BGATeach [-\]: I dont know much about Daniel. His two hoshi stones have the look of someone who wants to get on with the middle game
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;B[qn]
;W[nq]C[BGATeach [-\]: This pattern was used by kobayashi Koichi about 15 years ago, called the 'mini chinese' if Black now plays R11
BGATeach [-\]: Blacks main idea here is to spread stones over a very wide area, forcing white to invade somewhere, and then to make the invading group slightly cramped while completeing territory in the rest of the moyo
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;B[pf]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now the game starts properly. This is a new move to me
BGATeach [-\]: In the upper right, White can live quite easily starting at R17 or R16, but this is not urgent because Black has no efficient move to complete the corner
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;W[fc]C[BGATeach [-\]: Daniel continues to play normal moves.
BGATeach [-\]: I expect Black to continue his moyo plan by playing around J17. The exact spot is not clear
BGATeach [-\]: Lets look at two ways:
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(;B[id]C[BGATeach [-\]: This is the game
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;W[cf]C[BGATeach [-\]: This pattern was very popular for a while in Japan and korea. I expect AS to know the josekis.
BGATeach [-\]: Heres a simpler line
BGATeach [-\]: It seems odd to me that AS is thinking a lot here. all whites moves have been predictable, and i would expect Q14 to be backed up by loads of homework.
BGATeach [-\]: But perhaps Q14 was just a whim on the day
ihmsje [-\]: hasnt Q14 occured a lot in the Master series?
BGATeach [-\]: I am out of date on opening theory.
BGATeach [-\]: Blacks theory should be:White can live at R16, N17 or R10. If he lives at only one of these then Black has enough territory to compete. If he lives at two of these then White will be stretched
ihmsje [-\]: okk^^ I am not completely sure if alpha go played the R6 Q14 combination but at least it played Q14 a lot and many pros started to experiment with it, too
BGATeach [-\]: Meanwhile White is hoping for a decent territory at D10 or K4, and can treat these as miai when guessing how much reduction of Blacks area he needs
BGATeach [-\]: I said AS would play slowly. Daniel is conserving his energy
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(;B[fe]C[BGATeach [-\]: Whites obvious answer to this is to give ablck the stone he is attacking:
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Yes, R6/Q14 is standard now, ihm.
ihmsje [-\]: D17 next is most usual locally isnt it?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: White might play on the left side. F15 doesn't put as much pressure on the F17 stone.
ihmsje [-\]: but its quite a rare pattern probably AS made some study before playing
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Yeah, non-standard, aims for the centre.
BGATeach [-\]: The main thing for White to avoid is coming out with H17, G15
BGATeach [-\]: If White wants to look after F17 then D17 and J18 are the possible moves
marshmn [3k\]: photo from the game here: https://twitter.com/marshmn/status/898842428743892992
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Ouch, the board is a bit low.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: That's gotta hurt your neck and back over an entire day.
ihmsje [-\]: oh why dont they sit on the floor...?
BGATeach [-\]: That hurts your knees
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: lol
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: British people don't know how to seiza.
ihmsje [-\]: hm I actually like to play at a giban on the floor...
ihmsje [-\]: or a proper board on a proper desk^^
Slowmatch [?\]: I've lweart a lot from this already
Slowmatch [?\]: "learnt
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Your name is very fitting for this game.
ihmsje [-\]: :D
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(;W[dc]C[ihmsje [-\]: well 180 minutes is good game 
BGATeach [-\]: A decision.
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;B[cc]
;W[cd]C[marshmn [3k\]: we are using a digital clock for the first time #intothefuture
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Interesting that he directly mobilised F17.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Feels like if he had left it, there would be a lot of aji to reduce the top if he needed to sacrifice it.
BGATeach [-\]: Blacks first idea here would be to live in the corner and hang on to the cutting stone
ihmsje [-\]: I would have chosen this way too but when I heard your idea of just leaving it I actually liked it^^
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: :)
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: White can actually leave it if black plays F16 too.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: It's just easier to do so with F15.
BGATeach [-\]: Better try for the outside
BGATeach [-\]: So, Back to the game:
Lice [5d?\]: f15 is generally usually seen with white stones on the right.. wonder why exactly
logitech [5d\]: C15 best move for black?
marshmn [3k\]: FYI, black is uberdude on KGS and white is mathmo
BGATeach [-\]: Heres another way:
logitech [5d\]: This variation https://i.imgur.com/4NHd14n.png
logitech [5d\]: B plays away at P6 after local fight
runderlap [5d\]: whatever, B should start playing
BGAadmin [-\]: After 1 hours play, B has used 43 minutes and W 17
BGATeach [-\]: AS is only happy when he is in time trouble. That takes a lot of doing with 3 hours on the clock.
marshmn [3k\]: :)
marshmn [3k\]: overtime is 10 moves in 10 mins repeating Canadian byo-yomi
runderlap [5d\]: plenty of time
marshmn [3k\]: yes
BGATeach [-\]: While they are thinking, lets look at the right side.
BGATeach [-\]: For Black, two moves are needed to make territory, say R9 and Q12. If he plays either of these then White can stop the other one.
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;W[bd]C[BGATeach [-\]: A better way is to think P6 and Q10, and to realise that P6 is always useful, so it comes first,
BGATeach [-\]: Ah, some moves.
logitech [5d\]: They;re playing the move I suggested
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;W[db]C[BGATeach [-\]: AS goes for Logitechs idea
logitech [5d\]: D18, B15, D15, E16, B17, D14
logitech [5d\]: E18 and then P6
BGATeach [-\]: So Black takes the money and white gets thickness facing the next fight.
BGATeach [-\]: This is a totally weird place to stop and think.
BGATeach [-\]: He had to decide this move before playing C15, e17
marshmn [3k\]: both players taking time away from the board
BGATeach [-\]: `(note to others, marshnm is in the room with the players, you can ask him what they are doing
BGATeach [-\]: Black has two ways here, both involve sacrificing two stones
BGATeach [-\]: Mostly a question of what sort of game he feels like playing.
BGATeach [-\]: With 3 hours on the clock, it should be a matter of habit to read ech local fight through before playing any stones
BGATeach [-\]: Otherwise you get the moves in the wrong order, and miss out important forcing moves
BGATeach [-\]: Daniel is a British national, currently studying at Cambridge University. 
BGATeach [-\]: I do not know where he learned his go
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Daniel spends a lot of time on the AlphaGo games.
BGATeach [-\]: I learned mostly from Go seigens games, rather weaker I suppose??
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;W[bc]C[BGATeach [-\]: Aha a move
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: A lot of Go Seigen's moves are actually repeated by AlphaGo.
marshmn [3k\]: 2!
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Many of the teachings which other pros dismissed are now rekindled through AlphaGo.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: It's a shame he isn't alive to see it.
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;B[eb]C[BGATeach [-\]: And White was prepared, he refused the sacrifice so as to get the right side
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;W[ed]
;B[de]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now White can choose which side
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;W[fb]C[wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: I feel like taking sente might be an option for black now.
BGATeach [-\]: No choice here. Black has to take the 3 stones
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Perhaps N3.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: N4*
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;B[bb]C[BGATeach [-\]: N4 is a bit hasty. I prefer P6 in that area
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;W[ec]C[BGATeach [-\]: But hes taken the money
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;W[bg]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now there are two ways:
logitech [5d\]: A16,D12,F13, H18, E11
BGATeach [-\]: If A16, D12, Black E13 aims D13 and H18
BGAadmin [-\]: B has now used 79 mins and W 18
BGAadmin [-\]: A reminder that lunch will be taken in 1 hours time with a sealed move
logitech [5d\]: I think B ahead
lo [7k\]: can the sealed move be any kind of move, for instance a ko threat or some kind of kikashi ?
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;B[ac]C[BGATeach [-\]: Yes you can play a kikashi as the sealed move
marshmn [3k\]: any legal move is valid i think
BGATeach [-\]: AS is going for the tricky line
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;W[eh]C[facet [?\]: in The Master of Go, didn't the challenger play a forcing move as his sealed move and the defending champion was angry at this?
lo [7k\]: I remember that book
BGATeach [-\]: Yes, there are many stories about this.
logitech [5d\]: B made a mistake by cutting at C13
BGATeach [-\]: One time, Kato Maao played a forcing move, then both players sat down to think for 10 minutes, and Kato played his next  move, failing to spot that rin had not answered yet. he lost or playing 2 moves in a row
BGATeach [-\]: Kato Masao, sorry, typo
BGATeach [-\]: Notice here that Black C12 is quite big
logitech [5d\]: G13, G12
logitech [5d\]: H12
logitech [5d\]: G11
lo [7k\]: connecting at f14 any good ?
Lice [5d?\]: so these two spent nearly 2 hours to play one joseki wrong?
Hobbes [2d\]: lol
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;B[gf]C[Hobbes [2d\]: a bit harsh on them I'd say
TobyM [1k?\]: how much extra strength in the centre does B need in order for H18 to work?
Lice [5d?\]: is it not the truth though?
lo [7k\]: hm, I can play lots of wrong joseki's a lot faster
logitech [5d\]: G13,G12,H12,G11,H18, H17, J17, G18 prediction
Hobbes [2d\]: and anyway you spend time exactly because  of a wrong joseki otherwise...it's joseki
BGATeach [-\]: The joseki is not so wrong as t be decisive.I would expect both players to make bigger mistakes in the early endgame
lo [7k\]: Is this still the opening or would you call this middle game
Hobbes [2d\]: best move to live on top?
marshmn [3k\]: J18?
logitech [5d\]: White choose from J18, R8
logitech [5d\]: J18 best move
blindelk: I'm a bit confused, in the BGAAdmin game they're only up to move 24
BGATeach [-\]: Normal move at the top is J18,
blindelk: Is the main line here the actual game?
BGATeach [-\]: also possible to play H17 aimng at H15
logitech [5d\]: J18,H18, H17
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;W[ib]C[marshmn [3k\]: bbaadkin game is on move 42
BGATeach [-\]: He could also have tried g16, aiming to create a weakness
BGATeach [-\]: Now I would like to see P6, treating the bottom and the left side as miai
logitech [5d\]: H18, H17, J17, K18,G17
logitech [5d\]: Black were even/ahead before they cut at C13. White ahead now
BGATeach [-\]: H18 no good, white will G16
BGATeach [-\]: Blacks move at the top is K18, but probably a bit early
logitech [5d\]: If W G16, B H17
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(;B[hi]C[logitech [5d\]: Whats the time on their clocks
BGATeach [-\]: This is interesting. His most exciting move yet.
clydesdale [2k\]: i like it
logitech [5d\]: https://i.imgur.com/o4k4mLQ.png predicted
BGAadmin [-\]: We just hit the 2 hour point and B has used 94 mins and W 26
zenter [3d?\]: this move is real ?
BGATeach [-\]: Makes K18 big enough to play now
marshmn [3k\]: yes
marshmn [3k\]: move is real
BGATeach [-\]: White can try to cut with G13, but looks thin
marshmn [3k\]: but overtime isnt tough
timhunt [?\]: Well, except that overtime is 10 in 10. That is quite slow.
timhunt [?\]: Andrew can play for hours at that speed ;-)
marshmn [3k\]: indeed :)
BGATeach [-\]: And he often does
Lice [5d?\]: does he maintain proportions on byo yomi? as in 9:30 minutes for first move and 30 secs for next 9?
zenter [3d?\]: w will g13 anyway
marshmn [3k\]: since we areplaying with a digital clock its even easier
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: H11 is a nice move.
logitech [5d\]: R9 next move
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: R15 perhaps first as a probe.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Why do you prefer R9 over R8 out of interest? Since then the counter-pincer doesn't threaten to link up to R6?
BGATeach [-\]: I wonder what move Black plans on the left side.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: I suspect he'll just 3-3.
logitech [5d\]: R9, R12, Q7
BGATeach [-\]: For H11 to have a meaning he should be threatening something
BGATeach [-\]: C12 is not enough:
logitech [5d\]: R9,R12,Q7,R4,R3,S3
timhunt [?\]: White has pincered, bottom right
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Indeed, R8.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Now probably white counter-pincers with R10.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: black*
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(;W[ql]C[BGATeach [-\]: Thanks Tim
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Do the moves not auto-update from the main board? That's kind of unfortunate.
Lice [5d?\]: r10 makes a kinda silly formation..
Lice [5d?\]: too many holes
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: What do you think of Q9 for black here? Weird sort of shape.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: But maybe it's okay.
BGATeach [-\]: Yes they do, but if i am navigating somewhere else i have to notice the click
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Ah, I see.
Lice [5d?\]: p7 looks interesting here
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: hmm
BGATeach [-\]: I would expect P6 here
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: True, but E13 isn't too heavy.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Could give up those two in some variations.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Especially since white played J18 already.
BGATeach [-\]: I dont believe it. Black has no future if E14 dies
Lice [5d?\]: giving them up means no k18 later
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: You feel black has to harass white on the left to have a chance in the game?
BGATeach [-\]: And giving them up means white E7 is 40 points of territory
logitech [5d\]: I think White ahead comfortably now
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: R10 still feels like instinct to me here.
BGATeach [-\]: R10 too small scale. Black has to make K18 aim at a big enough moyo to force White to invade. If white has 6 separate groups then Black has a chance
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(;B[qj]C[BGATeach [-\]: IMO this is a losing move.
BGATeach [-\]: I have to prepare my lunch now. Probably nothing much will happen before the players get back at 2pm.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: I don't understand why black cut at C13.
logitech [5d\]: C13 is losing move
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Did you discuss that already? I was away.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: But it looks really bad.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Helped W more than B.
Lice [5d?\]: there is no losing move yet.. just one mistake and 2-3 questionable ones..
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;W[pn]C[wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Since this is going so slowly and the reviewer is afk - anyone see Garry Kasparov play this week?
lo [7k\]: did he give up chess and turn to go ?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Nah, he played in a chess tournament, after 12 years.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: First time I've ever seen him play, I was very young when he last played.
lo [7k\]: come back ?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Just a one-off to promote his new book I think.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: But even so, it was a privilege to watch him, a legend.
timhunt [?\]: I assume the top right is too big to be territory, but where would white invade? And, what is black's most efficient move to solidify it?
timhunt [?\]: White S14?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: That corner has a lot of aji at R15, Tim.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: White can usually get a ko in the corner.
timhunt [?\]: (not now, but later)
timhunt [?\]: OK, thanks
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: np
lo [7k\]: I had the privilege once to play Euwe in a simul
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Max Euwe? Wow.
lo [7k\]: Yeah, I was only a boy back then
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Didn't he die like 40 years ago?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: aha
lo [7k\]: I lost of course, but it is a sweet memory
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Yeah.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: In a situation like that it's not whether you win, but just having the opportunity.
lo [7k\]: Yes
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;B[dn]C[wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Did you switch from chess to go recently then?
timhunt [?\]: So, this is presumably trying to activate C12
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Yeah, extending to D9 after this, perhaps.
lo [7k\]: I played go for over 35 years I think
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: White could always pincer though.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Wow.
lo [7k\]: But not much time these days, to busy
lo [7k\]: Love to watch games sometimes
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Less effort to watch :)
lo [7k\]: that reminds me, is Aussiemate still active at KGS ?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Last online 14th May.
lo [7k\]: Nice fellow
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: 92 years old, gosh.
lo [7k\]: yeah
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Similar to my great grandad lol
lo [7k\]: Thats the good part of go, can be played at all ages
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: And anywhere, now we have the Internet.
BGAadmin [-\]: After 2.5 hours B has 1:13 remaining and W 2:17
lo [7k\]: Time to do some chores...
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Almost 2 hours to play about 20 moves lol
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: And still he's considerably behind.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: I expect W to win though.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: I don't remember exactly but I think he's something like 9 wins/2 losses against black.
timhunt [?\]: 2 wins to Daniel, 1 to Andrew, over the board. http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php
timhunt [?\]: Sorry, taht link won't work
marshmn [3k\]: next move will be sealed
marshmn [3k\]: we will be back around 14:00
timhunt [?\]: Better link: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=17213581&pin=14337147
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: They have played a lot at the go club too.
timhunt [?\]: Sure.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Daniel is maybe 1-2 stones stronger, rating is a bit lagging behind where it should be.
timhunt [?\]: However, Andrew Simons was the only person to beat Daniel in the Challenger's (qualifying tournament for this final).
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: On time, and Daniel was ahead according to computer analysis.
timhunt [?\]: Oh yes.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Let's hope neither of them lose on time today.
timhunt [?\]: Andrew Simons has managed it before in the title match, even with the 10/10 overtime.
timhunt [?\]: However, today they have a digital clock, apparently.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Yep.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Only about 10 years overdue.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: The Mind Sports Olympiad go tournament is this weekend.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: They have digital clocks there too if you fancy having a go.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Lots of other activities too if you're not just a go player.
logitech [5d\]: Wolfsrain want to play a game
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Nah, I should be studying.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Just procrastinating with this.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Next week maybe.
marshmn [3k\]: sealed move has been made
BGAadmin [-\]: At the break, B has 1:13 remaining and W 2:08
BGAadmin [-\]: We will be restarting is around an hour
BGATeach [-\]: I guess Black is looking to attack big scale with B11, not play c12
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;W[dl]C[marshmn [3k\]: d8 was the sealed move
marshmn [3k\]: we are under way again now
marshmn [3k\]: white has 2h04 remainig
marshmn [3k\]: black has 1H13
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;B[fp]C[BGATeach [-\]: Back now, lets catch up
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;W[eo]C[BGATeach [-\]: Still hoin very slowly.
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;B[cq]C[BGATeach [-\]: So White has settled the left side while Black gets going on reducing the bottom
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;W[cp]
;B[dq]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black might easily end up with all 4 cornrs from here, which would be amusing considering the start
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;W[hp]C[BGATeach [-\]: H4 is a confusing move. What happens if Black tries to hang on to everything?
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;W[do]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black is going to try to keep everything
BGATeach [-\]: Now the lower left corner is alive without another move
BGATeach [-\]: Again AS is thinking at the point where he cannot sensibly think. E4 is only a move in conjunction with its follow up
BGATeach [-\]: And the only followup is D7
BGATeach [-\]: While we wait. What move do people xpect White to choose on the upper side if he plays first there?
huffle [1k\]: k17
BGATeach [-\]: Yes, K17 is the farthest White can reach without being cut.
BGATeach [-\]: Though H18 stillleaves an awkward reply for White to find.
BGATeach [-\]: White might prefer J17, which leaves no weaknesses
BGATeach [-\]: Or else go all the way to P17
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;B[ho]C[BGATeach [-\]: But anyway dont do L17 and get cut at k18
BGATeach [-\]: Now AS tries something fancy.
marshmn [3k\]: black: 0:51 remaining, white: 1:44
marshmn [3k\]: white lost more than 10 mins on a move when he didnt press his clock...
BGATeach [-\]: H5 invites White to take money with J4
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(;W[ip]C[BGATeach [-\]: White agreed
BGATeach [-\]: Again AS is thinking after Black played the obvious move. I dont think his reading is properly organised.
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;B[go]C[BGATeach [-\]: G5 looks extremely generous.
BGATeach [-\]: White E6 now is an immediate 20 points territory plus comlete security for two groups. 
BGATeach [-\]: Andrew must believe that L4 is an incredibly powerful attack
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;W[fn]C[timhunt [?\]: Looks like Black C12 is now pretty cleanly captured by crawling underneath.
timhunt [?\]: Oops no. Not completely clean yet due to shortage of liberties on D13 stones.
BGATeach [-\]: Yes indeed. And Black B12 is not really an endgame play because White will  play A14 first
BGATeach [-\]: Black better play at or near L4 to justify not taking D7 when he could
BGATeach [-\]: I prefer E6 to F6. There is still bad aji:
timhunt [?\]: Yes. This looks like it asking for 'more' is some way, but what more is it actually getting?
timhunt [?\]: I guess harder to connect E8 to G5, but so what?
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;B[bp]C[marshmn [3k\]: Matthew is having trouble getting back in here for some reason
marshmn [3k\]: you're back now Matthew?
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;B[jb]C[timhunt [?\]: So in the bottom left, black seems to have got some yose, and white is strong.
hjb [2d\]: BGATeach has opened another clone in the British room
marshmn [3k\]: Matthew couldnt get back in here for some reason
marshmn [3k\]: so best to switch to his new cloned game
fortytwo [?\]: BGA teach has another game open folks and is commenting in that one
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;W[bk]C[BGATeach [-\]: Still scrappy for both
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;B[fo]
;W[bq]
;B[fl]C[BGATeach [-\]: This could go badly wrong for White
]))
(;W[ip]
;B[dm]
;W[fo]
;B[go]
;W[gp]
;B[fr]
;W[fm]
;B[em]
;W[bp]
;B[bq]
;W[in]C[BGATeach [-\]: This doesnt look much good for Black. I wonder what he is aiming at
]))
(;B[ep]
(;W[do]
;B[dm]
;W[fo]
;B[fm]
;W[fr]
;B[er]
;W[gp]
;B[bp]
;W[bo]
;B[bq]
;W[hn]C[BGATeach [-\]: In this case, Black has to connect the left centre stones together tidily. Should be possible since the white left side is a bit thin
])
(;W[en]
;B[do]
;W[bo]
;B[em]
(;W[go]
;B[dm]
;W[bq]
;B[br])
(;W[fn]
;B[dm]C[BGATeach [-\]: Not possible for White
])))
(;B[dm]
;W[eq]
;B[ep]
;W[er]
;B[bp]
;W[bo]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[bq]
;W[bm]
;B[cm]
;W[bl]
;B[dr]
;W[gq]
;B[fo]
;W[bn]
;B[bs]C[BGATeach [-\]: Not good for White - the lowr side is too thin to call territory
]))
(;B[on]
;W[qi]
;B[qg]C[logitech [5d\]: B K18
BGATeach [-\]: This way Black gets to complete ythe corner
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: It feels like white got a base kind of easily here, and there's still aji in the corner.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Maybe it's a bit soft.
BGATeach [-\]: Yes, so H11 had to have a second meaning. Tat is why I was looking at the left side
BGATeach [-\]: But I cant see his follow up
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Well if black didn't H11, white could play H13.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Expand and reduce, boundary point sort of idea.
BGATeach [-\]: He still can play g13 and cause trouble
]))
(;W[gg]
;B[hg]
;W[hf]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black does not have a quick way to kill
marshmn [3k\]: so black has less than half his time remaining now
])
(;W[ch])
(;W[ic]
(;B[ch]
;W[af]
;B[ad]
;W[ci]
;B[bh]
;W[ej]C[BGATeach [-\]: White has an emergency ko for later
])
(;B[dk]C[timhunt [?\]: If I was to add a add move it would be atari then C10?
timhunt [?\]: But is it urgent to play there?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: The left doesn't feel urgent.
]
;W[fk]C[timhunt [?\]: Thanks.
BGATeach [-\]: This doesnt look much good for Black either
])))
(;B[hb]
;W[gd]
;B[hc]
;W[ge]
;B[ff]
;W[hf]
;B[gg]
;W[gc]C[logitech [5d\]: https://i.imgur.com/jpr6Li6.png
logitech [5d\]: W G16, B H17, W H14, B G13, W G15
BGATeach [-\]: Black cant kill, and he is cut apart
]))
(;B[ac]
(;W[ff]
;B[eg]
;W[ge]
;B[di]C[BGATeach [-\]: Here white gets out
])
(;W[dh]
;B[eg]
(;W[ib]
;B[dg]
;W[cg]
;B[ch])
(;W[di]
;B[hb]
;W[hc]
;B[ib]
;W[hd]
;B[ie]C[logitech [5d\]: https://i.imgur.com/WAL4NAX.png
logitech [5d\]: Like that
])))
(;B[cg]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[dh]
;B[ac]C[BGATeach [-\]: This is a fight. Black is aiming to kill at H18 so white has to be careful
logitech [5d\]: A16
logitech [5d\]: A16, D12
]))
(;B[eb]
;W[ed]
;B[de]
;W[fb]
;B[be])
(;B[be]
;W[de]
;B[ed]
;W[bf]
;B[bc]
;W[ae]
;B[eb]))
(;B[cb]
;W[db]
;B[bd]
;W[ce]
(;B[bb]C[ihmsje [-\]: yes b continuation is better in case of F16
]
;W[ee]
;B[ed]
;W[fd]C[wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: This is much too good for white.
BGATeach [-\]: Doesnt work for Black
])
(;B[ed]
;W[be]
;B[ac]
;W[bb]
;B[ba]
;W[ab]
;B[gb]C[BGATeach [-\]: This is a squeeze, but not a good one
]))
(;B[ec]
;W[db]C[ihmsje [-\]: can b c15 b16 e17 d18 b15?
]
(;B[de]
(;W[bd]
;B[eb]
;W[cb]
;B[df]C[BGATeach [-\]: This looks ok for black
])
(;W[eb]
;B[ce]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[bc]
;B[em]C[wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: lol
BGATeach [-\]: Now hard to find an ideal point for Blacks extension on the left
]))
(;B[eb]C[BGATeach [-\]: Here is another way
]
;W[ed]
;B[de]
;W[fb]
(;B[cb]
;W[ea]
;B[ce]C[wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Surely too good for white.
BGATeach [-\]: This might be OK for Black, he can hop to get H18 in sente later
ihmsje [-\]: better other direction isnt it?
Lice [5d?\]: this is joseki..
Lice [5d?\]: without c18
Lice [5d?\]: c18 is bad cause removes atari on e16
BGATeach [-\]: Yes, i agree, now E15 is too good to allow
])
(;B[ce]C[Lice [5d?\]: b16 b15
Lice [5d?\]: now white plays b17 to force himself to take the two black stones
Lice [5d?\]: and black captures with b18, and the white cuts with e15
]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[bc]
;B[cb]
;W[ea]
;B[bb]
;W[ee]
;B[ef]
;W[df]C[ihmsje [-\]: why not c15 b16 e17 d18 b15 d15 e16 ?
BGATeach [-\]: Like this?
Lice [5d?\]: b14 f14 e13 f13 e12 g15 
Lice [5d?\]: yes
]
;B[bf]
;W[bg]
;B[ad]
;W[dh]
;B[fd]
;W[ec]
;B[ff]
;W[ib]C[Lice [5d?\]: from what i know white sacrifices d14 and c14
BGATeach [-\]: Maybe playable for both
Lice [5d?\]: but its usually on a different global situation so..
])))
(;B[ce]
;W[bd]C[logitech [5d\]: C15 black, B16 white
]
(;B[ed]
;W[db]
;B[be]
;W[bc]
;B[df]C[BGATeach [-\]: What after C15?
]
;W[cn]C[runderlap [5d\]: d18 should at least be at e17 
BGATeach [-\]: This looks well balanced for White
])
(;B[be]
;W[de]
;B[ed]
;W[bf]
(;B[ec])
(;B[bc]
;W[ae]
;B[ec]
;W[db]
;B[eb]C[logitech [5d\]: C15 B, B16 W, E17 B
logitech [5d\]: C15 B, B16 W, E17 B, D18 W
BGATeach [-\]: This time do play atari. I dont like the feel of that white thickness facing the unplayed area
BGATeach [-\]: Good for W?
Lice [5d?\]: isn't this way too good for black?.
]
;W[ki]C[logitech [5d\]: C15 B, B16 W, E17 B, D18 W, B15 Black, D15 White
runderlap [5d\]: l11 is way too vague
BGATeach [-\]: White claims half the board. now Black has to fight in front of Whites thickness. Could be OK for White
runderlap [5d\]: e.g. at r12 
])))
(;B[gc]C[logitech [5d\]: Variation like this https://i.imgur.com/8gtfdMk.png
]
;W[ec]
;B[bd]
;W[ce]
;B[cb]
;W[ee]
;B[on]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black lives in the corner in sente and gets on with the game
]))
(;W[cc]
;B[dc]
;W[cd]
;B[de]
;W[cb]
;B[db]
;W[kc]
;B[ic]
;W[nc]C[BGAadmin [-\]: After 30 minutes play, Black has useed 24 minutes and white just 6
])
(;W[hc]
;B[ic]
;W[ge]C[BGATeach [-\]: This would be bad, as it gives Black the upper side without having to spend a move reinforcing
]))
(;B[fd]
;W[gd]
;B[fe]
;W[ec]
;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[dc]
;W[de]
;B[ed]
;W[hc]
;B[ef]
;W[ci]
;B[jc]
;W[ge]
;B[gf]
;W[he]
;B[ig]
;W[jb]
;B[kb]
;W[ie]
;B[je]
;W[jf]
;B[if]
;W[ke]
;B[jd]
;W[ib]
;B[lc]
;W[db]
;B[cb]
;W[ea]C[BGATeach [-\]: Heres an example:
BGATeach [-\]: M17 looks about the right distance from Q14. this looks good for Black to me
])
(;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[ef]
;W[cc]
;B[dc]
;W[cd]
;B[ce]
;W[be]
;B[de]
;W[bg]
;B[eg]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now White needs to form a plan, either invade once and build some white territory or invade twice and have a game of many weak groups
]))
(;B[ic]
;W[cc]
;B[dc]
;W[cd]
;B[de]
;W[db]
;B[eb]
;W[cb]
;B[ec]
;W[cf]
;B[eg]
;W[cg]C[ihmsje [-\]: b seems to have the initiative like this and even ends sente
BGATeach [-\]: Now Black has a big area, probably best to continue near the centre to make it bigger.
])
(;B[cf]
;W[jc]
;B[lc]
;W[je]C[BGATeach [-\]: This way white doesnt get the left side.
]))
